Earth's shape research update - The Hyper-Dimensional Earth

There has been considerable debate on the forums between the Flat Earth and Ball Earth models. Could this be a false dilemma? Both sides of the debate have very good points, but there is something elusive that seems to prevent reconciliation between the opposite sides, in the conventional analysis. The more I look at it the more it appears that there is more than meet the eye in this topic.

I have a growing impression that the Earth is both flat and round at the same time, depending on the perspective, and that the solution lies in another dimension.

After presenting some alternative models recently, reading all arguments here on the forums and doing my own research, I decided to more profoundly explore an Earth model that introduces at least another dimension in its design.

Here is the hypothesis:

Earth appears flat like a plane as seen from its surface, from a 3D perspective. The plane is finite, but without borders. The plane is curved on itself, in a 4th dimension invisible to its inhabitants, in both x and y axis (longitude and latitude), until it forms a closed North-South, East-West loop, and appears rounded when looked at from a 4D perspective. In mathematical language, it is a 3-manifold (many possible variants exist in theory). As people live in 3D on its surface which is a 3D world, they will never see the curve, but deduce that there must be a curve based on many observations (like horizon sunset/sunrise, land exploration, etc.).

The Sun and the Moon circle around the Earth in the 4th dimension, on their own plane parallel to the Earth plane. That's why we see the sun rising and setting on the horizon. All stars and planets, also lie in higher dimensions (4D or higher), whatever their nature is.

The shape of the Earth as seen from the 4D perspective is still undefined, because with our limited minds we cannot directly visualize a 4D object. We can have an outline of Earth as a 3D projection if we flatten the z axis (altitude). The resulting projection can be something looking spherical, toroidal, or like a bowl, or another strange shape.

3-manifold (projected view):

Nested multi-toroidal universe:

4D Sun & torus slices (projection):

Torus 4D Earth (projection only - curved in 4D, surface appears flat from a 3D perspective):

Spherical 4D Earth (projection only - appears like the standard NASA view because it's projected):

Spherical 4D Earth projected unto a 2D plane:

UN logo may be a 2D projection of 4D Earth:

Land exploration at the polar regions is necessary (either on foot or via OOB) to determine if there are boundaries, openings/folds in the 4th dimension leading 'inside' 4D Earth, or another kind of energetic barrier.

Mr. Iamtruthseeker recently found a valuable testimony suggesting such a possibility.

If the plane is continuous without borders/limits at the poles, then the projected form would be more spherical. If we discover energetic boundaries/4D openings at one or both poles, then the projected form would more likely be a bowl or a torus, respectively.

I'm curious to know if our forum members have seen something compatible with such a model from their OOBs, and if they did some astral exploration on the polar regions where decisive clues may perhaps be obtained.

The astral traveler on Youtube who shared his OOB observation of Earth saw it as a sphere, but as astral projection is a projection, it could simply be the 4D-shape projected in 3D by its mind, showing the Earth plane curved on itself - a flat 3D surface wrapped around a spherical object if that is the case.

Also, the flower of life pattern that he saw overlaid above the surface can symbolically evoke multiple things, including the possibility of a density barrier (etheric interface) separating Earth and what we call 'outer space'.

To conclude this post, it is said in esoteric materials that the astral plane corresponds with the 4th density. One may ponder if there is a link/correspondence between the concepts of density and dimension? Maybe the higher densities of the spiritual world are anchored in complex, hyper-dimensional mathematical constructs according to some mysterious code design? This is leading us directly to this area of research: Planes of Knowable Reality.

- M.

Sunrise on a 4D Earth as seen from an higher dimensional perspective (projection only - curved in 4D - curve invisible on the 3D physical plane at any altitude):

As seen from the 3D world surface:

There has been considerable debate on the forums between the Flat Earth and Ball Earth models. Could this be a false dilemma? Both sides of the debate have very good points, but there is something elusive that seems to prevent reconciliation between the opposite sides, in the conventional analysis. The more I look at it the more it appears that there is more than meet the eye in this topic.

I have a growing impression that the Earth is both flat and round at the same time, depending on the perspective, and that the solution lies in another dimension.

After presenting some alternative models recently, reading all arguments here on the forums and doing my own research, I decided to more profoundly explore an Earth model that introduces at least another dimension in its design.

Quote:2. The possibility that the Earth is perfectly flat and spherical at the same time. That would reconcile both sides of the debate. A weird idea, isn't it?Adding more dimensions is like getting outside a box. It adds a layer of complexity, but introduces solutions that may not be available in a lower-dimensional model.

Not so much if we introduce more dimensions to our analysis. If our local Universe has more than 3 physical dimensions, it could be possible to have a situation where the Earth appears 'flat' from a tri-dimensional point of view, yet spherical from a tetra-dimensional perspective if curved on itself in a fourth physical dimension invisible to its inhabitants. This is a very complex idea to ponder because our mind is used to think in three dimensions only. If such a case was the solution for our planet, that would be a huge challenge to mentally conceptualize.

Also, non-Euclidean geometry considerations could, in theory, add to the diversity of imaginable models for a planetary shape in a given space, particularly if combined with additional dimensions. Do we really know it all about the mathematical design of our local space?

Please note that I only present such a model for consideration and research purposes. I don't claim that this is the truth. It could be at least partially correct, or not. Also, different mathematical models can accurately describe a given reality design (many valid models can correctly explain the same reality by providing different angles on a situation). Mathematics are sufficiently fluid to often give rise to multiple solutions for a problem.

Here is the hypothesis:

Earth appears flat like a plane as seen from its surface, from a 3D perspective. The plane is finite, but without borders. The plane is curved on itself, in a 4th dimension invisible to its inhabitants, in both x and y axis (longitude and latitude), until it forms a closed North-South, East-West loop, and appears rounded when looked at from a 4D perspective. In mathematical language, it is a 3-manifold (many possible variants exist in theory). As people live in 3D on its surface which is a 3D world, they will never see the curve, but deduce that there must be a curve based on many observations (like horizon sunset/sunrise, land exploration, etc.).

The Sun and the Moon circle around the Earth in the 4th dimension, on their own plane parallel to the Earth plane. That's why we see the sun rising and setting on the horizon. All stars and planets, also lie in higher dimensions (4D or higher), whatever their nature is.

The shape of the Earth as seen from the 4D perspective is still undefined, because with our limited minds we cannot directly visualize a 4D object. We can have an outline of Earth as a 3D projection if we flatten the z axis (altitude). The resulting projection can be something looking spherical, toroidal, or like a bowl, or another strange shape.

3-manifold (projected view):

Nested multi-toroidal universe:

4D Sun & torus slices (projection):

Torus 4D Earth (projection only - curved in 4D, surface appears flat from a 3D perspective):

Spherical 4D Earth (projection only - appears like the standard NASA view because it's projected):

Spherical 4D Earth projected unto a 2D plane:

UN logo may be a 2D projection of 4D Earth:

Land exploration at the polar regions is necessary (either on foot or via OOB) to determine if there are boundaries, openings/folds in the 4th dimension leading 'inside' 4D Earth, or another kind of energetic barrier.

Mr. Iamtruthseeker recently found a valuable testimony suggesting such a possibility.

If the plane is continuous without borders/limits at the poles, then the projected form would be more spherical. If we discover energetic boundaries/4D openings at one or both poles, then the projected form would more likely be a bowl or a torus, respectively.

I'm curious to know if our forum members have seen something compatible with such a model from their OOBs, and if they did some astral exploration on the polar regions where decisive clues may perhaps be obtained.

The astral traveler on Youtube who shared his OOB observation of Earth saw it as a sphere, but as astral projection is a projection, it could simply be the 4D-shape projected in 3D by its mind, showing the Earth plane curved on itself - a flat 3D surface wrapped around a spherical object if that is the case.

Also, the flower of life pattern that he saw overlaid above the surface can symbolically evoke multiple things, including the possibility of a density barrier (etheric interface) separating Earth and what we call 'outer space'.

To conclude this post, it is said in esoteric materials that the astral plane corresponds with the 4th density. One may ponder if there is a link/correspondence between the concepts of density and dimension? Maybe the higher densities of the spiritual world are anchored in complex, hyper-dimensional mathematical constructs according to some mysterious code design? This is leading us directly to this area of research: Planes of Knowable Reality.

- M.

Sunrise on a 4D Earth as seen from an higher dimensional perspective (projection only - curved in 4D - curve invisible on the 3D physical plane at any altitude):

As seen from the 3D world surface: